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mayaneet · 01-07-2012, 10:49 AM

Hi i am new in this forum and in 3d field as well.I am learning through tutorials because i haven't joined any institute.My question is that I am 27 yr old now and i started now so i much can i achieve in this field in future??? Or is it not a right age to start now?????

omkarjere · 01-07-2012, 11:39 AM

Welcome to this forum mayaneet, As for my personal opinion I would not recommend you to continue in this field(especially 3d) as an career option. If you're very much interested then you can continue it as a hobbie.

I don't know about the future of this field but the current situation is pretty bad. Not many jobs and the few which are there are very unstable(talking about 3d). You may get kicked out anytime.

As for the financial pov the starting payment is generally around 10k and will gradually grow as per experience and skill.

kunal mazumdar · 01-07-2012, 04:49 PM

First of all, well come to the cgtantra.com

Second, about your query.

Animation is an artistic field. Here if you want to succeed than you must have talent (basic skills), passion and hard work.

Now a days there are lots of online sites (like eat3D, Animation mentor and so on) where one can learn more about the basic skills and software techniques (not software itself). So, if you know about your interest, ability and strong point; than you should learn directly the stream or subject you want to follow, instead of learning a very long course from a local institute which includes every thing form modeling to animation, compositing to editing etc.

I will not say that you should not learn these things, but at the starting point one should master a specific skill.

Example, Suppose you have great interest in human anatomy, gesture drawing and sculpting. So, you must choose Character development, modeling and sculpting as master skill.

Now your age, I do not think you are too old. In artistic field again 3 things matter.

1. How fast you learn, understand and master?

2. How fast you complete your job?

3. How better you do than others?

I have seen some teenagers struggling with maya and some 25+ man doing very well in maya. So age does not matter, if you have the talent and skill.

For the job market, compare to 10 years ago, Now we have more animation institutes and studios. So this industry is growing. And yes there is always a job for a talented artist. you have to find that one. And yes, this industry is also goes up and down like any industry.

Here it is not like a Govt. full time job where you are 100 safe. In this industry, if you want to survive than you must take risk, change yourself according to the environment and some time upgrade your skill. If you think that you have no guts to do these things, than this industry is not for you.

I hope my words can help you.

Respect and Regards.

mayaneet · 02-07-2012, 01:30 PM

Thanks for the reply omkarjere and kunal mazumdar.
But i am not able to getting whom to accept.
I also heard about some job problem in this(3d) field but as kunal said that

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Originally Posted by kunal mazumdar

For the job market, compare to 10 years ago, Now we have more animation institutes and studios. So this industry is growing. And yes there is always a job for a talented artist. you have to find that one. And yes, this industry is also goes up and down like any industry.

But i think that the mushrooming of these institutes are also responsible for the downfall of this field.

And as far as my interest is concerned i am interesting in character rigging and i learning through tutorials like Jason Schleifer(AFR series) and Fahrenheit Digital(both are so advanced). These are old tutorials but some told me that these are best.
But i need some basic also

omkarjere · 02-07-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mayaneet

Thanks for the reply omkarjere and kunal mazumdar.
But i am not able to getting whom to accept.

And as far as my interest is concerned i am interesting in character rigging and i learning through tutorials like Jason Schleifer(AFR series) and Fahrenheit Digital(both are so advanced). These are old tutorials but some told me that these are best.
But i need some basic also

As I said in my earlier post that it is my personal opinion about 3d Animation. Most of my batch mates work in 2d(Graphics) 3-4 friends of mine who are interested in 3d including myself are struggling for jobs. Maybe we lack skill or something. One of my friend got a job as modeller but was only being payed Rs.3000 a month. He couldn't manage his expenses so eventually he had to quit. Last time I heard from him that guy wished to learn HTML. That indicated he had planned to switch to web development.

My Opinion is shaped by such incidents. As for Rigging I personally am a Rigging artist with the knowledge of MEL scripting. But 90% of the time I saw ads they required experienced riggers and I am still a fresher. Many have advised to learn other things with Rigging. So I would give the same advice to you that only Rigging won't do the trick you must know something else as well like Animation/Modeling etc.

I will still give you the advice not to continue in this as an career option but if you still wish for it then continue as a hobby.

If you're extremely talented or have real good contacts then only you'll get a job easily.

kunal mazumdar · 02-07-2012, 05:14 PM

I am happy that you are interested in a specific area. Rigging and Character animation are related fields. So, If you do a short term certificate or diploma course on Character Animation (from a local institute or on line course), than you should have a good chance for a job.

Again Character rigging is anatomy based more than software itself. So, you should also study human and animal anatomy. And observe how the limbs works, they walks or do actions. If you are working on your portfolio or demo reel, than you should have a humanoid rig, a Quadruped rig (4 leg animal) and a mechanical rig at least.

And as Omkarjee has said, though lots of students are there, maximum of them from multimedia background rather than a art background. Many have notion than if you know HTML, Flash, and Photoshop; than you can also go for a 3d or maya, max.

Honestly speaking this notion is very wrong. Yes, Multimedia is also a exciting field, but is different one from 3D. Multimedia is software and language based, e.g. you learn Web design either by HTML, XHTML or Flash. So, one can easily learn the basics and start a good job.

But 3D is a pure art. Here you should learn pencil arts, Composition, Character Modeling, Rigging, Texturing, Lighting etc. And most of these are not based on software itself. So, it takes some more time and hard work. But once you know these things, you can work on any softwares, such as Maya or Max or Softimage or Blender and so on. Most of the reputed houses uses thier own software. So, if you have your basics solid, you can do better. Yes, at starting you may not get a huge salary like a management student, but after few years, as your portfoilo has more works and experiences to show, you will get better offers and salary.

My first faculty told me two things, "Never run after the money, just go for the knowledge and money will follow you". And second "In life nothing is easy and there is no short cut."

As far as the institutes are concerned, Now a days many of the institutes are offering courses on techniques and industry oriented. I will be no surprise that after some years every institute will take a basic skill test for an admission.

orb3 · 09-07-2012, 09:20 AM

hi mayaneet,

age should not be a problem, but the question is can you afford to start a new line/job from scratch. Im assuming you already have a degree in management or engineering but it wont help you much here. When i say "afford" i dont just mean financially but also socially. what are your own expectations in terms of money and growth in this field. Also what do your parents expect of you ?

You say you wanna learn yourself, thats good. I did the same , but i would say it will take you atleast 2-3 years to get to a level where you can make a decent demo and look for a job. The thing is that for this line you HAVETO be really exceptional at what you do, because the jobs are very few and there are thousands of applicants for each, so you gotta stand out. by that time you will be 30. Is that ok with you ?

Finally, as Omkar said do study animation , modelling, texturing and other aspects as well, cos in mid or small studios generalists are more in demand than specialist, specially in india.

If this is th line you really wanna get into i would say that there is atleast3-5 years of struggle before you get where you want. So if you are upto it go ahead. BUT if money growth and stability is more important to you then i woul say please reconsider.