Challenge Details & Rules

[Abhishek]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7500/gamemodelposterzm5.jpg (http://aiga.in)

Check the Game Art Challenge Winning entry thread of Vinay Brahmania for detailed concept and more images > LINK (http://cgtantra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8758)

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[jerazskywalker]

do we have to strictly stick to the sketches or are minor modifications allowed?

[sagiarts]

Thats a cool topic to work on.Vinay really did a nice job.Am in the game ......lets
play it baby!!!!!

[VinayKr]

Thats really nice challenge......
I just got a query........Why cant we use a normal map??Although it is used widely in games!!!!!!! dont know much ........may be a silly question

And can we use zbrush for modeling and texturing and then create the model with the given specification??........wnother one

Best of Luck to all

[Crunk]

intresting challege.. but a lots of questions..

1. are we allowed to use normal maps or no?

2. if u need to deliver 2 x 1024 tex pages.. its its ok to deliver 4 x 512 pages?

3. Does the model need to be textured also.. or is it a pure game MODELLING challenge

4. Does the have to be triagulated?

5. 3500 triangles.. are only for the body or they are for all the props,
like the glares,guns, backpack, all included?

[sagiarts]

Hi all
I hav some qustions too:

1.Should we have to stick to the proportion or toony look of the concept or we can give it realistic proportion and volume.

2. can we redesigne(only putting the detail keeping the look same) the accessories and gears because the concept is not a detailed one.

3.3500 triangles.. are only for the body or they are for all the props,
like the glares,guns, backpack, all included? (thanx savio)

4. Can we play with the color scheme

[supuzart]

hiii
i m confuesd ...
same as wht arnab sir had askd !
we hav 2 use this imageplane?
thnk you

[harisankarakrishna]

same doubts as above crunk asking....please clear themhttp://www.cgtantra.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
:rolleyes:

[Crunk]

i suggest u postoned the final submission date.. cause everyone has been confused. and we have been waiting for replies from the past 2 days.. we cannot start anything properly until u do not get the thoughts solved.. pls consider..

[neha maini]

hi everyone. m new to cgtantra and wanna take part in this challenge.. wish me luck ... and please guide me what to do n how to do .. i'll be thankful to all . :)

[Abhishek]

Hi Guys. Good to see your interest in the challenge and sorry for replying them late. Here are the clarifications, let me know if i am not clear about them.

do we have to strictly stick to the sketches or are minor modifications allowed?

Minor modifications are fine, but we would like to see your skills in closely interpreting the concepts into a 3D character model.

Thats really nice challenge......
I just got a query........Why cant we use a normal map??Although it is used widely in games!!!!!!! dont know much ........may be a silly question

And can we use zbrush for modeling and texturing and then create the model with the given specification??........wnother one

Best of Luck to all

Oh yes, Normal maps are widely used on Next-gen consoles today. Up-coming challenges will give you a chance to work on Zbrush and Mudbox.

For this challenge, we would like to see good Wire-mesh construction and texturing skills using only diffuse map.

intresting challege.. but a lots of questions..

1. are we allowed to use normal maps or no?

2. if u need to deliver 2 x 1024 tex pages.. its its ok to deliver 4 x 512 pages?

3. Does the model need to be textured also.. or is it a pure game MODELLING challenge

4. Does the have to be triagulated?

5. 3500 triangles.. are only for the body or they are for all the props,
like the glares,guns, backpack, all included?

1. No, not for this challenge.


2. Each Character would call 2 x 1024 texture pages. Within which you can distribute the texture space as you would like to.


3. We would like to see a fully modeled and textured character model.

4. Doesn’t have to be triangulated, the mesh could be in Quads please note that the final mesh count would be calculated in triangles.


5. 3500 triangles is for the entire character which includes all what you have mentioned and can be seen in the concept. It is up to the artist to evenly and logically distribute the mesh. Again, same with the texture pages.

Hi all
I hav some qustions too:

1.Should we have to stick to the proportion or toony look of the concept or we can give it realistic proportion and volume.

2. can we redesigne(only putting the detail keeping the look same) the accessories and gears because the concept is not a detailed one.

3.3500 triangles.. are only for the body or they are for all the props,
like the glares,guns, backpack, all included? (thanx savio)

4. Can we play with the color scheme

1. With regards proportion, purely go by the concept. Minor modification to proportion or detail should be okay.

As far as the style guide, you could again go by the concept.

2. If you were to add in more detail to the elements to make it look better finished, that should be okay but a complete re-design will be a NO no.


3. 3500 triangles is for the entire character which includes all what you have mentioned and can be seen in the concept. It is up to the artist to evenly and logically distribute the mesh. Again, Same with the texture.


4. Slight colour scheme modifications to make the model look better is fine. Making the model coloured drastically different from the concept is not welcome.


About pushing off the deadline, we will surely discuss about it and postpone it accordingly.

Gooodluck !!

[sagiarts]

thanks for clearing the doubts

[Digital3d]

Nice to see a gaming challenge :)

All doubts are clear ( thanks suvio and admin )

only one thing I want to know that can we make all props, body etc. in single mesh or can we make them seperate?

Thanks..

[harisankarakrishna]

thanku for the informaion....abhishek

[Chand]

Nice to see a gaming challenge :)

All doubts are clear ( thanks suvio and admin )

only one thing I want to know that can we make all props, body etc. in single mesh or can we make them seperate?

Thanks..

Hi Gigital3d,

The main character can be single mesh while the props can be separate

[Chand]

Nice to see a gaming challenge :)

All doubts are clear ( thanks suvio and admin )

only one thing I want to know that can we make all props, body etc. in single mesh or can we make them seperate?

Thanks..

Hi Digital3d,

The main character can be single mesh while the props can be separate

[Digital3d]

Thanks Chand

[d_sachit]

Can i submit just a model??? because i m not in texturing side...:(
This is 1st time m taking part in cg tantra challenge....If you guys r ok with this then i am in....

[tunnu100%3d]

do we need to create it toony way or we should try it realistic...

[aneeshmode]

hi abhishek ,its a very nice challenge . I hav done with my modeling ,want to move to texturing ,before that i have to clear some doubts :confused:

1. i hav created the hair as separate ,is that ok or must it be a single mesh?

2. do it need inner mouth details ? if yes ,could the teeth be separate ?

3. only diffuce map ? no specular /bump maps?

( sorry i dddnt know any thing abt modeling for games :o )

also plz tell me what is a "normal map"?

plz replay soon , i m exited...

thank you ,,

[lovygoel1987]

hi,
myself lovy........is it really important it to be textured b'coz i can only texture buildings or props not character............

> if i will only submitt model .....that means my entry is rejected (YES/No?)
plz reply so that i can start this challenge as soon as possible
thanx

[Abhishek]

Yes, for this challenge we would like to see a fully textured character model. An un-textured model is hence half finished and may not win a prize.

[Candela]

Hello ppl...I'm new to this site...very much facinated by the challenge section. Some one plz let me know how to enroll into this challenge. Whts the procedure to be a part of it?

:)

[Abhishek]

Hey Candela, just click on this link > http://www.cgtantra.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=139

click on NEW THREAD button...and start posting your work. If u have any doubts on how to post your images, check the link below. U have anymore doubts, feel free to ask here.

[VinayKr]

As a nebie I m confused about texturing the character...........

As mentioned in rules that we can have 2 * 1024 texture pages........
That means i have one texture sheet of color map and one of diffuse map which are spaced in those 2 texture pages???

Also r the texture pages like aligning the uvs in 0-1 space and then in 1-2 space???

Also color/diffuse means either color map or diffuse map or can we use both of them??
I m a newbie in game art

[Chand]

Hi Vinakr,
Answers to your queries :
As mentioned in rules that we can have 2 * 1024 texture pages........
That means i have one texture sheet of color map and one of diffuse map which are spaced in those 2 texture pages???

Color or Diffuse map. Commonly both these terms refer to the same. For instance, it is ‘diffuse map’ in Max and ‘color map’ within Maya.

Mapping ideally needs to be within 0 to 1. Though it is not a rule for this contest. Please bear in mind anything beyond 0 to 1 will overlap.

Hope the above clarifies your doubts.

[VinayKr]

thanx for clearing the doubt............

I got ur point of compacting the uvs in 0-1 sapce but if I am looking forward to two texture pages.........then I should arrange the uvs from 0-1 and 1-2 space(correct me if i am wrong) and apply two materials ....one for 0-1 spaced uvs corresponding that part of the mesh and one for 1-2 sapced uvs which correspond to other part of the mesh???

[phoenix0101]

You have said "One 2K rendered image of the character". Here, "2K" mean the resolution of the image or the image size. Please clarify.

[miths4u]

can u tell me is it necessary to post da different maps . 1024 * 1024 thereshould be one map ? pls clarify

[wozim]

thanx for clearing the doubt............

I got ur point of compacting the uvs in 0-1 sapce but if I am looking forward to two texture pages.........then I should arrange the uvs from 0-1 and 1-2 space(correct me if i am wrong) and apply two materials ....one for 0-1 spaced uvs corresponding that part of the mesh and one for 1-2 sapced uvs which correspond to other part of the mesh???

No, UVs layout should be in 0-1 space but model will now have 2 material ids. texture will overlap eventhoug you shift UVs in 1-2 space. you need to change material IDs for faces.

see this http://www.oman3d.com/tutorials/3ds/texture_stealth/

[phoenix0101]

Is it ok to edit the final render in photoshop to submit the entry?

And, for the previous query i will assume it is the resolution of the image i.e. 2000x1500.

Please, reply soon as we have only one day left.

[wozim]

can we use BG imags from net??

[Chand]

Queries and Answers:

VinayKr:

thanx for clearing the doubt............

I got ur point of compacting the uvs in 0-1 sapce but if I am looking forward to two texture pages.........then I should arrange the uvs from 0-1 and 1-2 space(correct me if i am wrong) and apply two materials ....one for 0-1 spaced uvs corresponding that part of the mesh and one for 1-2 sapced uvs which correspond to other part of the mesh???

Answer:

To clarify, UV’s for the second texture need not be from 1 to 2, though there is no harm if it were.



Phoenix0101:

2K rendered image of the character". Here, "2K" mean the resolution of the image or the image size. Please clarify.

Answer:

A little unclear on the question.

2k refers to the image resolution of the render.



Miths4u

can u tell me is it necessary to post da different maps . 1024 * 1024 there should be one map ? pls clarify

Answer:

A little unclear on the question.

The model should use 2 texture pages 1024 x 1024 each. You will need to submit both these textures along with the mesh model.



Phoenix0101:

Is it ok to edit the final render in photoshop to submit the entry?
And, for the previous query i will assume it is the resolution of the image i.e. 2000x1500.
Please, reply soon as we have only one day left.

Answer:

You could have a background but do not work over the rendered character in Photoshop. I hope this is clear.

You are correct, 2k refers to the image resolution of the render.



Wozim:

can we use BG imags from net??

Answer:

Background is an option, It’s up to you to use backgrounds from any source. Please ensure that they are not copyright protected.

[phoenix0101]

Thanx, Chand. for answering our queries.

[Abhishek]

Hurry Up Guys....The forum will be locked for any new posts and submissions on the night of 15th at 12:00 midnight.

So finish it up and make sure you send all the deliverables to game@cgtantra.com before the deadline !

Goodluck !! :)

[aneeshmode]

hi.. its 12:59.. i need at least 20 minuts more to post my work.coz my rendering is going on now.. can u help me?