Knowledge - Devotion –Misery

[dattaswami]

How to overcome worry

Try to enjoy the worry
When worry is inevitable, enjoy it and be wise
Even continued happiness leads to mental worry
Thus happiness and worry must be alternative
If you are worried by the continued happiness
You are worried at the cost of the result of your good effort

Instead of this it is better to get worry at the cost of your sin
Let the sin give some trouble and then you worry out of it
In this way the result of the sin is spent and the not the result of good effort
The loss in your present worry may be compensated in the future
But the time lost in your past worry cannot be compensated
Because the life span of any human being is fixed

Your loss may be compensated by million times in the future
But even one second of your lost time can never be compensated
Therefore, understand this and think about the value of the time
This knowledge of the value of time is called as ‘Kala Janana’
Which means the knowledge of the future that you should know,

Which provides the possibility of the compensation of all the loss
Except the loss of time, therefore, time is the most precious.
You may waste anything that can be again procured in the future,
But never waste the time, which you can never compensate.

There are two ways to escape the mental worry in this world
The first way is by obtaining the peace, which is zero
The second way is by achieving the bliss, which is plus
Worry is minus, peace is zero and bliss is plus
To escape minus, either you should be in zero or in plus

Bliss can be obtained only from the Lord in this world
Since Veda says that the Lord alone is bliss “Anando Brahma”
Veda also says that the Lord alone can give you the bliss
“Esha Hyeva Anandayati” this is quite logical in fact
The water is alone cool and so it alone can give coolness
Whatever is said in the Vedas, it is always logical

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

[dattaswami]

Spiritual Solution for Tensions and Anxiety

Realisation and repeated memorization of the true knowledge is the only one solution for this problem. The ignorance is responsible for all the anxiety and tensions. One should know that every one has climbed the time (Kala), which is the running train. Death is the station at which one has to get down. Then every one should face the Lord for the enquiry.

After the enquiry one will get either permanent happiness or permanent misery. The journey of this train to that station is the human life, which is only a fraction of second when it is compared to the infinite stream of time set up from the beginning of the creation. To think that the life is very long itself is ignorance. Every one is sitting in a closed compartment and realisation of the truth is the window through which every one should peep to find the infinite time stream. Only on such comparison the human life becomes a small fraction of a second. When the realization is absent and when there is no comparison the lifetime appears to be very long. First one should cross this illusion of time. Similarly, the illusion of the place. The earth looks very large under the ignorance.

But if one realises the infinite space of this universe the entire earth is a small fraction of a pinhead. Similarly one gets a comfortable seat and sits on it thinking that he is settled in the life. Another person is moving in the compartment in search of a comfortable seat and according to him he is not settled. But when both these people look out through the window, which is realisation of truth, then both realise that both are moving. Similarly one thinks that his co-passengers are his close relatives and is worried about them. But they get down at their respective stations and do not remember this fellow at all. Nobody remembers their relatives of his previous birth. If one realises that the so-called close relatives like parents, wife, children etc., are only the co-passengers who get down at their stations, he will not have any tension or anxiety about them. He does his duties without these two. Similarly when one thinks that he is his body itself, he feels that diseases damage him.

But if one realises that this body is only a dramatic dress needed for his role in the present drama, he is not worried about the damage of the body. He feels that as if his shirt is damaged. During the journey in the train one must constantly think about the interview and prepare for it. In such case he gets permanent happiness after the enquiry even though he is traveling in a comfortless third class compartment. If one forgets the interview and is attracted by the factors in the closed compartment, he is going to get permanent misery even if he travels by a first class compartment.

Thus, something is good according to the ignorant people and that is bad according to the realised scholars. This world is full of ignorant people and only very few realised scholars are present. Therefore the behaviour of a realised soul is criticized and mocked by the large public. But all the souls will realise the truth after the death when they face the enquiry. But it becomes too late by that time and nothing can be rectified. Thus, a realised scholar never cares for the public and proceeds in the true path decided by the true realisation. Only such true knowledge can remove the tensions and anxiety. The path of devotion can make you forget the pain temporarily for some time. It cannot remove the pain and anxiety on a permanent basis. No other methods like rituals, worships, etc., can solve this problem except the frequent memorization of the true knowledge. True knowledge is the comprehensive outlook of the whole situation i.e., realised by looking through the window of the train. Ignorance is the limited look inside the closed compartment, which is related to the comforts of seats and the bonds of co-passengers.

[d_jnaneswar]

Hey Datta Swami!

Nice philosophy!
I dont agree with you tho.

Devotion and true knowledge are not that different at all at their core. Bhagavatgita and Bhagavatam are testimonies to this, and so is the life of Sri Adi Shankaracharya, Sri Ramana Maharshi, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sri Sai Baba of Shirdi and other such saints.
No Mahatma or Scripture ever preached that devotion doesnt give liberation from what you call "tension and anxiety", infact, almost all of them say that it is one of the easiest ways.

Besides, memorization and repetition never work, understanding and realization always work.

Ne way, dont want to take over cgtantra with philosophical discussions.. hehe..

Actually, I love philosophy way more than animation.. may be some other time, we can argue. You know any philosophical forums where we can do that?

DJ

[dattaswami]

Hey Datta Swami!

Nice philosophy!
I dont agree with you tho.

Devotion and true knowledge are not that different at all at their core. Bhagavatgita and Bhagavatam are testimonies to this, and so is the life of Sri Adi Shankaracharya, Sri Ramana Maharshi, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sri Sai Baba of Shirdi and other such saints.
No Mahatma or Scripture ever preached that devotion doesnt give liberation from what you call "tension and anxiety", infact, almost all of them say that it is one of the easiest ways.

Besides, memorization and repetition never work, understanding and realization always work.

Ne way, dont want to take over cgtantra with philosophical discussions.. hehe..

Actually, I love philosophy way more than animation.. may be some other time, we can argue. You know any philosophical forums where we can do that?

DJ

The relationship of the devotee with the Lord is called devotion. Devotion is love for he Lord. Love is proved by service or seva. Claims of love without service are fraudulent. Praying, meditation, intellectual discussions, words, feelings or singing hymns does not substantiate devotion. If a husband loves his wife then he must serve her when she is ill. If he just sits by her side with his eyes closed or meditates upon her or chants her name aloud, while refusing to practically serve her by giving her medicines, food and drink, then he is only making a show of love; he does not really love her. The one who really loves her will serve her.

The Lord is pleased only with total devotion. The Gita says “eka bhakti? visi?yate”. He wants the devotee to love Him alone; not anyone or anything else. Nobody or nothing should be equal to Him. He will make the devotee reach this stage of devotion. This is the essence of all the datta parik?a or the tests of the Lord. The devotee will be tested severely till he breaks all bonds with everyone and everything in the world, till only the bond with the Lord remains. The Lord does not compromise in this aspect. He will not tolerate even a drop of the devotee's attachment to anything or anyone in the world.

[dattaswami]

Knowledge - Devotion –Misery

Knowledge is like sitting in your house without happiness or worry. Devotion is like travelling to the Lord by bus or train, which gives you happiness only. But service with sacrifice (Karma Yoga) is like travelling by aeroplane to the Lord, which involves full worry and misery only. To reach the Lord, only aeroplane is effective and therefore you hear that a divine aeroplane came down to take a devotee. A bus or train does not come down from heaven. The path is full with thorns. After reaching the goal also, you have to sit on the thorny thrown with thorny crown only. Lord Datta is said to be the ocean of bliss. This means that He is not enjoying the bliss but He makes His devotees to enjoy the bliss as said by Veda (Eshahyeva Anandayati…). The Lord transfers the evil effects of His devotees on to Him and always suffers. By this the devotees are blissful. Therefore, the path and goal are full of misery only and not the bliss.

The spiritual aspirant must always invite troubles and misery in his life, which are the real friends to give the advanced training. But if you analyse carefully, such misery gives you the real eternal bliss. This bliss is eternal because it is associated with misery and is not affected by misery. Thus, the real eternal bliss comes only through the misery in the sacrifice. The bliss that comes in the happiness of selfishness is always temporary. It disappears when the misery attacks it. Therefore, you must try to derive the internal bliss through the misery obtained in the sacrifice. Misery also comes by sins but such misery will not give the eternal bliss. Therefore, you should try to attain the eternal bliss by sacrificing every thing and every body in this world for the sake of the Lord in human form. Lakshmana, Bharatha, Hanuman etc. did the same. Even Jesus says that unless one sacrifices all the bonds and even is prepared to sacrifice the life by carrying his own cross for the sake of the Lord, He is not pleased with such disciple. The bliss rising from misery and associated with misery can never be effected by misery and therefore remains eternal. A person who is grown up by the poison only as the food cannot be effected by the bite of a serpent.

[dattaswami]

People say that the characteristic of the spiritual path is peace. Is it correct?

It is correct to certain extent till you reach the self (Jeevatma) it is correct. But the spiritual journey does not stop there. When you differentiate yourself from your body as pure awareness you will attain peace but you have to go further to reach the ultimate goal, which is the superself (Paramatma). When you are travelling in the path to reach the super self after attaining the knowledge of self, you will loose the peace because that path is full of sacrifice.

Sacrifice will disturb your mind because you have to cut all the worldly bonds including the bond with your body and even life. While reaching the self you are eating a sweet, which will give you satisfaction. You cannot have fruit from the Lord again. You have already eaten the sweet and you cannot charge money for eating the sweet.

Already you are given the fruit when you attain your self but when you are reaching the Paramatma you are giving the sweet to Him and you have to suffer with hunger. Therefore the Lord will pay you for the sacrifice of the sweet. When you loose the peace the Lord becomes peaceful. Therefore attaining the self by removing the illusion that you are the body etc., is only a half journey. The Lord is called as Atmeswara in Veda, which means that He is the controller of even the self.

In Advaita philosophy you are reaching the self, which is only the intermediate station. Of course you must attain the peace, which gives, you lot of strength so that you will withstand the suffering by sacrifice in the next half of the journey. Sankara stopped by preaching this intermediate station to all the people. When a few people reached this station, then He opened the further path to them only. He swallowed the molten lead and preached to the disciples that He alone is the Lord. They realized the self and reached the intermediate station called Brahman by the path of ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ (I am Brahman). Brahman means simple awareness.

The next half path is to reach Lord who is Eeswara. Peace is not the final fruit. Peace is only the intermediate fruit, which gives you the strength in the journey. The fruit given by the Lord is the final fruit, which are peace, bliss and all the eight super powers. If one takes a sleeping tablet, he can get peace during the sleep as well as after awakening. Detachment from the world gives you the peace (Brahman) but the fruit given by the Lord is to remain peaceful, blissful while living in this world and helping the real devotees with the help of the eight super powers (Asta Siddhis). The fruit given by the Lord will give you the real bliss i.e., the entertainment in the life game played by you in this world itself, which is certainly far higher than the peace. Sivoham (I am Eeswara) as told by Sankara is the final goal and not 'Aham Brahmasmi'. Sankara lived in the world and did lot of work. He never sat idle thinking Aham Brahmasmi like the present Advaita Philosophers.

Patanjali wrote Yoga Sutras and fixed Eeswara as the final goal. We remember Sankara today as the divine hero but not the other Advaita philosophers. Sankara sacrificed His mother and earning of money for the sake of the mission of the Lord. But the Advaita Philosophers sit in their houses and roll with their family bonds and simply say Aham Brahmasmi. One should become a divine hero like Sankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Swami Vivekananda etc.; they were dynamic doing the Karma Yoga, which was without any selfishness. Their Karma Yoga was the propagation of the divine knowledge, which is Jnana Yoga but today the Advaita Philosopher is doing Karma Yoga with selfishness for his family bonds only. What is the use of their Jnana Yoga?

[dattaswami]

Hey Datta Swami!

Nice philosophy!
I dont agree with you tho.

Devotion and true knowledge are not that different at all at their core. Bhagavatgita and Bhagavatam .........ime, we can argue. You know any philosophical forums where we can do that?

DJ

Hanuman stands as an example like a mountain for knowledge, devotion and service. The knowledge of Hanuman was over even before meeting Rama. The devotion rised like a Tsunami when He met Rama. Thus both the knowledge and devotion are in hidden state in Hanuman. The entire Ramayana of Valmiki, especially the Sundara Kanda, relating to the Hanuman is simply concentrated on the service of Hanuman to the then human incarnation. The service (karma yoga) cannot result without devotion (Bhakti yoga). The devotion cannot be generated without the knowledge (jnana yoga). Rukmini heard about all the details of Krishna (Jnana yoga) and developed terrible attraction (Bhakti yoga) to attain Krishna by such knowledge. Her devotion is selfless and her attraction to Krishna was not to become the queen of Dwaraka. She wanted to be present at the feet of Krishna and press the feet continuously and her aim was such service (karma yoga). The karma yoga implies the already existence of Bhakti yoga and jnana yoga. You are serving your son.

What is the reason for your service? The reason is your love on your son which is Bhakti yoga. What is the reason of your love on that child? The reason is that you are well aware that he is your child born from your blood. Such knowledge and identification (jnana yoga) is responsible for your love. Therefore when the service exists, it means the existence of Bhakti yoga and jnana yoga simultaneously. Of course the service should be without any aspiration for any return. A servant also does lot of service, but the reason for the service is the salary i.e., expected by him from you. The service and love of a prostitute exhibited is for your money. Thus when selfless service is present, it means the real devotion and the real knowledge exist. Sundara kanda shows the selfless service of Hanuman to the then human incarnation of His time which is a proof for the existence of real devotion through real service. Thus from Hanuman we must learn the three items (Triputi) of spiritual concepts which are yourself, the path and the goal. To know that you are not the God and that you are only the humble servant of God is the first item.

The selfless service directly to the present human incarnation is the true path. The present human incarnation in your generation and its identification is the goal. Thus the entire three fold spiritual effort can be realized perfectly from the life of Hanuman which is the divine message of the guru. There can be no better guru than Hanuman because Hanuman Himself is Lord Shiva who is acting the role of a spiritual aspirant. Rama is the human form of Lord who is acting in the role of a human being in Pravrutti.

You have to learn from Rama about the behavior that you should adopt towards your co-human beings in a balanced and justified society which is established by the Lord. Hanuman is the human form which came to preach Nivrutti of the spiritual side which involves the knowledge of yourself, the knowledge of the true path to please God and the knowledge of right convenient form of the God to be worshipped on this earth during this human life. Thus God as Narayana came in the form of Rama to teach Pravrutti. The same God came in the form of Hanuman as Lord Shiva to preach Nivrutti. Shiva is Narayana and both these are the names of same God (Shivascha Narayanah).

[d_jnaneswar]

As far as I am concerned, the ultimate teaching is in the verse 34 of chapter 4 of Bhagavatgita.

tadviddhi Pranipaatena Pariprasnena Sevaya,
Upadekshyanti te(a)jnanam Jnaninastatvadarshinaha.

Approach thos who have seen the truth, serve them whole heartedly and ask them until you understand, they will teach you what you need to know to attain the Supreme.

I am a strong advocate of this and believe that any amount of bookish knowledge doesnt add up to even one sentence of teaching directly imparted by a True Tattwa Darshi, a.k.a. Guru.

In that sense, devotion is what you wrote it like, but then devotion does lead one to Liberation. Infact, a Gnani, that is one who attained the "truth" is said to be a devotee in Gita. (Four types of Devotees, artha, arthartha, jignasu and Gnani) Thus devotion is essential to most people, and only a handful can follow the path of pure intuition (Kevala Gnana Marga).

The Datta tradition is the tradition of Guru and Sishya and it is said to be the root of all other spiritual traditions. Thus, its neither repetition, nor rememberance of truth that gives liberation, but following a Guru whole heartedly and completely is the only sure method. Even Mahatmas like Ramana Maharshi, who is said to have attained liberation through Gnana said that Guru is indispencable in Spirituality.

Oops.. cant control myself from writing when i read spiritual concepts.. So, here it ends!

On a final note, the problem with spirituality as a whole these days is that there are too many preachers and very few followers. Hope people follow a Guru before they hope to lead. That would set a lot of things right.

DJ

[dattaswami]

As far as I am concerned, the ultimate teaching is in the verse 34 of chapter 4 of Bhagavatgita.

tadviddhi Pranipaatena Pariprasnena Sevaya,
Upadekshyanti te(a)jnanam Jnaninastatvadarshinaha.

Approach thos who have seen the truth, serve them whole heartedly and ask them until you understand, they will teach you what you need to know to attain the Supreme.

I am a strong advocate of this and believe that any amount of bookish knowledge doesnt add up to even one sentence of teaching directly imparted by a True Tattwa Darshi, a.k.a. Guru.

In that sense, devotion is what you wrote it like, but then devotion does lead one to Liberation. Infact, a Gnani, that is one who attained the "truth" is said to be a devotee in Gita. (Four types of Devotees, artha, arthartha, jignasu and Gnani) Thus devotion is essential to most people, and only a handful can follow the path of pure intuition (Kevala Gnana Marga).

The Datta tradition is the tradition of Guru and Sishya and it is said to be the root of all other spiritual traditions. Thus, its neither repetition, nor rememberance of truth that gives liberation, but following a Guru whole heartedly and completely is the only sure method. Even Mahatmas like Ramana Maharshi, who is said to have attained liberation through Gnana said that Guru is indispencable in Spirituality.

Oops.. cant control myself from writing when i read spiritual concepts.. So, here it ends!

On a final note, the problem with spirituality as a whole these days is that there are too many preachers and very few followers. Hope people follow a Guru before they hope to lead. That would set a lot of things right.

DJ


Exactly Lord comes in human form in every human generation known as Human incarnation or Satguru. There is a difference between satguru and mere guru.

In the word Satguru, the prefix ‘Sat’ means truth. A Satguru always preaches the truth. Truth is always harsh and is not liked by several people. Therefore a Satguru will have only very few disciples. A Satguru says that the path with thorns will lead to the Lord. People will not like this. He also says that the path with flowers leads to hell. People will not be happy with this preaching. A Guru preaches which several people like. The Guru says that the nature of the goal will be the nature of the path. Since the Lord is full of bliss the path also must be with flowers giving happiness. Since the hell is giving you lot of pain the path with thorns which also gives lot of pain must lead to the hell. This argument is very attractive.

Several people will like this and will become the followers of Guru. Several people will praise him and give lot of Guru Dakshina because his argument is pleasant. But a Satguru says that the path with thorns alone will lead to the Lord because in this path you have to cut the bonds with your family and with your hard-earned money. Sacrifice gives lot of pain and sacrifice alone will lead to the Lord. The path with flowers strengthens your bonds with your family and money which gives you lot of happiness. Such path leads to the hell.

Several people do not like such argument and so only one or two persons who can realize the truth will become His disciples. A Satguru will never worry about the number of the disciples and about the quantity of Guru Dakshina. Even if a single disciple is available He is happy. Majority always goes to hell. Only one in millions like Sankara, Vivekananda, Meera can reach the Lord. Diamonds are always in minority. Gravel stones are in majority. Therefore a Satguru will be only one in thousands of Gurus and a true disciple will be only one in millions of disciples.

When you are doing prayers you are praising the Lord as a poet praises a king. The foolish king may give some gift to the poet. But the omniscient Lord can never be fooled by such praise. When you sing songs are chant the name of the Lord or express the feelings of devotion by shedding tears or by meditation you are getting the happiness and peace immediately. You have achieved the fruit. The Lord will not give another fruit for these things. When you are pained and loose peace by cutting the family bonds and by sacrificing your work and wealth to the Lord, then only the Lord will give the real gift to you. When you are working in the field for the owner, doing the work pains you. The owner will pay money for your work. Without doing the work, if you are simply chanting the name of the owner or sing songs on the owner, a wise owner will never give any gift.

You have already derived the bliss and peace by eating the sweet in your hand. Why should I pay you when you are eating the sweet? When you sacrifice the sweet to me I shall pay you. A Satguru teaches only the sacrifice which is the path with thorns leading to the Lord. Veda says that sacrifice alone can bring the grace of the Lord (Dhanene Tyagenaike). If you ask the payment by prayers and devotion the Lord will pay you from your pocket only. He will bring the results of good deeds from your future life cycles and present them to you. But when you are sacrificing the sweet to the Lord in spite of your hunger and your heart pain, the Lord rewards you from His pocket. Therefore the true path leading to the Lord can be identified by loss of peace, mental worry, pain etc., The path to the hell is identified by peace, happiness, benefit etc., Satguru leads you to the Lord and Guru leads you to the hell.

[dattaswami]

The significance of present human incarnation


When you read the scriptures, which are the discourses of past human incarnations, you will get so many doubts demanding clarification. If the original Lord is not available, we have to depend on other fellow human beings for clarifications. Suppose you are studying a correspondence course. When you get a doubt, you have to depend on your classmate, who is studying the course similarly. He is not competent to clarify your doubts and you will be poisoned by his wrong interpretations. Suppose you are studying the same course in a college and the lecturer is explaining in the class. Whenever you get a doubt, you can ask him then and there and you will surely get the correct interpretation at the correct moment. The clarification is important at the correct moment because without clarification the latter part of the lecture may not be understood or may be misunderstood. Such a facility does not exist with past human incarnations and past scriptures. In this light alone, Jesus modified all the Old Testament and gave the correct interpretation as and when people asked Him questions and doubts. If Jesus is not in the present generation, He must be blamed for being partial towards that generation alone. However God is impartial and therefore comes in every generation.

The present generation is very much blessed because of the facility of computer technology. You can clarify your doubts through this computer system without any strain of traveling to the human incarnation in person. All the divine preachers in this world are in contact with God and are doing the divine preaching to various levels of devotees. Their preachings may be mixed with some ignorance and it is not their fault because such mixing with ignorance in various proportions is required for various lower levels of human beings. The complete and pure knowledge without any trace of ignorance can be grasped only by a very few highest devotees. The number of advanced research students studying under a professor is always very small. Therefore the direct human incarnation is recognized by a very few top level devotees only.

The number of elementary school students are always many and the number of elementary school teachers are also many. As you rise in the level, the number of students and the number of professors become lesser and lesser. Therefore you should not aspire for a large number of followers. For the direct human incarnation, there will be only a very few deserving devotees of such a top level. But such top devotees are spread here and there all over the world. Therefore there is a necessity for propagating the top most divine knowledge of the top most human incarnation, all over the world. But the number of followers will not be high but will be the very least. Jesus said that His path is very narrow and that only very few people travel on it. Lord Krishna has told in the Gita that only one in millions can perfectly understand Him (Kashchit Mam Vetti…). Therefore the aim of the topmost human incarnation is not to have a large number of followers, since it is impossible. The aim is only to see that the topmost knowledge reaches the few deserving devotees, who are spread all over the world here and there. If you wish to have a large number of followers, then divine knowledge has to be adulterated with ignorance. The naked truth should not be exposed in such a case. Diamonds are always in few in number whereas gravel stones are many.

The lower level devotees and the lower level school teachers should not be criticized. The levels of school, college and university are obviously required due to the existence of human beings in the corresponding levels. Therefore you should not criticize the students in schools and colleges. Today you are a student of a university. But one day you were in the school and in the college. Without the guidance of the school teacher and the college lecturer you could not have entered the university. The direct human incarnation of the Lord is the topmost professor, who has a few post graduate and research level students. God, being the head of the university level in spirituality, the schools and colleges are affiliated to the university and work under His leadership. It is the huge system of divine preachers. The school teachers and the college lecturers are working under the guidance and will of that Professor alone. The system is split to suit the various levels but there is no split in the preachers. The whole system of divine preachers is perfectly working due to the grace of that Supreme Preacher. There is no split in the preachers. Mixing up ignorance with knowledge is inevitable and is done according to the level of the students.

There is only one Supreme Preacher in a generation and He will be covering all the preachers and religions under the concept of Universal Spirituality. Some lower preachers may oppose this concept and it is not the fault of those preachers. Since the students of some lower levels do not agree to this concept, those preachers have to proceed according to their psychology. The supreme preacher knows this fact and only smiles, if any preacher of a lower level opposes this concept. It is by the internal wish of Supreme Preacher only, that preacher opposes Him so that he can have a grip on his students who are of a lower level and do not like this concept. It is a very long journey to transform the entire Universe and make it realize this concept of Universal Spirituality. But one day or other this divine goal will be achieved and the entire world will be like one family with one Divine Father. The various cultures and religions need not disappear. But the innermost single continuous thread of the garland of gems with various colors will be realized by every human being of this universe. Such a state is called as WORLD PEACE.

Please remember that the divine preachers in this entire Universe are not at all split. They appear as if they are split in order to have a grip on their corresponding students, who are really split. All these divine preachers are connected by their innermost souls and are working by the grace of that Supreme preacher, who is the Lord in human form. The difference in the preachers is only apparent to satisfy the different psychologies of the followers. One preacher may criticize another preacher in order to satisfy his followers but all these divine preachers are internally united and are working on the single program of transforming this entire world to realize the Universal Spirituality, which is the Absolute Truth like the one Absolute God.

All the original preachers like Krishna, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad etc. are brilliant diamonds and all their followers are like black pieces of charcoal. The diamond and charcoal are made of the same carbon atoms. Similarly the preacher and the follower are human beings. In the diamond there is a regular crystal structure. The charcoal is amorphous, without any crystal structure. Thus the correct logical interpretation makes the scripture shine like a brilliant diamond. The same scripture without regular logical interpretation becomes a black charcoal.

[dattaswami]

Is it possible for God to come in Human form?

How can one argue that the Lord cannot come down in the human form? If He is incapable of doing so, He cannot be omnipotent. One need not argue that though the Lord is capable, there is no necessity of such human form. You may not have that necessity. Are you the only human being on this whole earth? Have you taken the opinion of all the human beings to say like this? There are several devotees who belong to Nivrutti and desire for the Lord in human form to see (Darsanam), to touch (Sparsanam), to hear the knowledge and clarify their doubts (Sambhashanam) and to live along with the Lord (Sahavasa) for achieving these three for a long time. The main purpose is preaching the divine knowledge and clarify the doubts.

The statues or photos or energetic forms or space cannot preach the knowledge and that is against the universal observation (perception). Preaching of the knowledge by the human forms of the Lord like Krishna, Jesus etc is observed universally and accepted perception. Such universal observation is according to the rules of the nature. When something is possible through a simple way by following the rules of the nature, is it not foolish to do the same simple thing in the complicated way violating the rules of the nature? When water is available in plenty from the tap, what is the necessity of producing water by forcing Hydrogen and Oxygen to react with the help of an electric arc? To show the production of the water by this reaction, this experiment can be performed once but not every time whenever water is required. To show the super power of the Lord a statue or a photo or the energetic form or even formless space may talk once.

But to preach the spiritual knowledge continuously, the Lord need not talk continuously through statues or photos or energetic forms or space. Some devotee might have experienced such super power in some place and in some time. Such experience is not supported by simultaneous universal observation. When you are seeing the moon in the sky, others are also observing the same moon simultaneously. This is required to authorise any experience. When this authorisation is absent, your experience may be true or might have been due to some psychological disorder. The existence of such psychic experience is also observed in this world. Therefore we cannot isolate the possibility of these two cases in your experience

Therefore there is a necessity for the human form of the Lord and since the Lord is omnipotent, He is coming down in the human form. There cannot be any further argument on this point. I know you are worried that the Lord is modified into the human body and thus the unchangeable Lord has to be changed. Do not worry about this point, because the Lord is never modified into the human body. He only entered into the human body. The word “Asritam” in the verse of Gita “Manushim tanumasritam” means the entry of the Lord into the human body and not the modification of the Lord as a human body. Lord Krishna in Gita clarified this in the verse “Avyaktam Vyaktimapannam”.

[dattaswami]

Speciality Of Lord Datta & His Best Devotee

Generally we do some service to the Lord and expect something good in return from the Lord. This is the norm of the general worldly business. The specialty of Lord Datta is that He announces His policy in the beginning itself. His policy is one-way traffic. You have to do service to Him but He will not do anything good in return. Thus the business completely disappears. At this stage itself majority of the devotees drop out. Some devotees come to Him prepared for doing the service without any good fruit in return. After some time He opens His second policy. This policy is two-way traffic but it is different from our two-way traffic. He starts doing bad for our service. As the devotees press His feet He will be beating them with His stick. This is the true love.

The devotee must have the divine knowledge to understand Lord Datta. By giving such troubles He is clearing all the sins. In clearing the sins He pays ninety-nine percent and the doer must pay one percent according to the rule of minimum justice. He appears to be giving troubles but actually He is clearing the sins. Then why He is not opening this truth. If the truth is not opened then only the true love exists. In the true love, one loves in spite of troubles from the other side. If the truth is opened this true love disappears. We will realize that these troubles are for his benefit only. Then we will tolerate the troubles from that angle. In such case it cannot be true love. Therefore Lord Datta maintains the secrecy. After clearing the sins, He will give boons. Without curing the fever, strong food should not be given. If it is given the patient dies. The demons were destroyed by such boons. There are three types of devotees. The low-level devotee asks for a boon like a demon. He does not give any freedom to the Lord. He decides that something is good for him and asks the Lord to give it.

The devotee acts like a master and is indirectly treating the Lord as his servant. The Master asks the servant to do a particular thing without any comment. The middle class devotees ask the Lord to do whatever is good for them. They give some freedom to the Lord in deciding, which is good and which is bad for them. Upto this point they give freedom to the Lord. After this point the Lord has no freedom and He has to do good only. Thus these devotees give 50 percent freedom to the Lord. The best devotee gives 100 percent freedom to the Lord. He asks the Lord to do whatever the Lord likes. This devotee is prepared to receive the bad also if it can please the Lord. His only aim is that the Lord should be pleased by doing whatever He likes. This devotee feels that he is only an inert means for the play of the Lord by which the Lord is entertained. A player beats the ball by foot and is entertained. The devotee also likes to receive continuous sufferings, if such sufferings can entertain the Lord.

When Jesus was doing the last prayer, He tried to avoid the future agony of death. For a moment He was vibrated with the forthcoming agony of crucification. But immediately He regained His originality and ended the prayer by saying “Let Thy will will be done”. He said finally that He is prepared to suffer if that is the will of the Lord. This is the best devotion. Lord Datta starts giving small troubles, which means that He is clearing the small sins. If the devotee is firm in his faith, then Datta starts clearing big sins. That means the small troubles will be slowly magnified into big troubles. When He clears your pronote of Rs. 100/- (Rs = $), He pays ninety-nine rupees and you will have to pay Re. 1/-. Then He starts clearing your pronote of one thousand rupees and then you have to pay Rs.10/-.

You have to pay one percent of your sin according to the least expectation of the Justice. In the first stage Lord Datta keeps silent without doing any good for your service. This is the test of Brahma. This is a sort of initial training for the further tests. Then Datta starts troubling you for your service. The clearance of small sins is the test of Vishnu. In the third stage big sins are cleared and your troubles are intensified. This is the third test of Rudra. From one angle these are the tests to find out the strength of your faith and truthness in your love. In another angle these tests are secret clearance of your sins and your purification to make you eligible for His grace. Only the best devotee can stand before the special Lord Datta. Datta is true God and His preachings are true. The benefit you get also is true. The real Sun can remove the real darkness by his real light and imaginary Sun cannot remove the real darkness.

You are spending lot of your time and energy in analyzing these worldly affairs. You are egoistic and you think that you are intelligent to solve the worldly affairs. By your intelligence and intensified analysis through long discussions, you will find that the worldly affair about which, you have taken so much care utterly flops at the end. If you spend even one-tenth of that time and that energy in the service and devotion on Lord Datta, your worldly issue succeeds beyond your imagination. In fact the servants of Lord Datta attend your worldly affairs. These worldly matters are below His level. His level of work starts when you go to the hell after the death. He will speak to Lord of the hell not to enquire about you and close the file since you are in His service. Thus you are blessed in this world and also in the upper world. Your faith is not 100 percent. To practice this if you are in His constant devotion all your duties will be also discharged by the power of Lord Datta in a fraction of second and in an excellent manner. One can test this concept in the case of one worldly affair and see whether what I say is correct or not?

You can test this in one case and you will experience the truth of My preachings.

[wartoon]

STOP POSTING GOD CRAP WHAT THE HELL >sorry<
it's annoying

[d_jnaneswar]

Hey wartoon,

I think you could stop reading it if it bothers you. Dont be harsh. Politeness rules.

Dattwa Swami, I suggest you point out links to philosophical forums and head over there to write about this.. I am not against writing this here, but it will eventually lead to flaming and ruining of tantra because of disagreements between people.

my 2 cents.

DJ