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zaza

08-02-2006, 04:56 AM

For faster rendering in max, one friend told about Dual processer computer.But what added config should be used for high quality rendering in less time,Please share this info and experience about your configs

mukks

08-02-2006, 11:17 AM

good things comes to those who waits,.<img src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">        a dual pro can reduce the time by 35 to 45 % , means if a render takes 1 hr on a single xeon with 2 GB ram, it tooks aound 30 to 40 min on a dual xeon with 2 GB ram,,  ( aproximate) and if ur processor have HT technology,, it ll go less,,,    look two 1.5 GHZ pro is more powerfull than one 3.5 Ghz pocessor,, (its not my word, its from tech leaders) .....                       try to render same scene on two such machines ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sure ull get surprised,,,

3d_devil

08-02-2006, 11:35 AM

good things comes to those who waits,.<img src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> 
 
i've been waitin for the last 3 years. at home i'm still workin on 1gb
ram, 2.2 ghz no HT n 64MB graphic card... n i'm still waitin to buy my
new pc <img src="smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0"> 
 
a dual pro can reduce the time by 35 to 45 % , means if a
render takes 1 hr on a single xeon with 2 GB ram, it tooks aound 30 to
40 min on a dual xeon with 2 GB ram,,  ( aproximate) and if ur
processor have HT technology,, it ll go less,,, 

 
 
hey mukks can u tell me wht % of render time can i save by usin a 64
bit dual core dual prcessor with HT , 4 GB ram ? the quad processor
comes  30K or more in the UAE... so i've opted for the dual
processor....

mukks

08-02-2006, 12:33 PM

"Running SOFTIMAGE|XSI, our flagship
animation and digital character software on APEXX 4 produced the best
interactive lighting performance we have ever seen," said Colin Hodges,
senior production specialist at Softimage Co. "With APEXX 4?s
outstanding processing power we were able to load a scene with Rock
Falcon, one of our demo characters, and experience a significant speed
increase with the interactive XSI render region. Previously one
single-core CPU took us four minutes and 48 seconds to render the
preview, whereas with APEXX 4?s eight cores, the preview took only 36
seconds ? that?s an average of 94% speed increase per CPU. This type of
exceptional preview performance will drastically improve a 3D artist?s
productivity and cut down on coffee breaks." 
 

                          <a href="http://features.cgsociety.org/story.php?story_id=3390" target="_blank" target="_blank">LINK</a> 
   take a look on these charts   <img src="http://images.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/chart_3dstudiomax.png" border="0">    <img src="http://www.studio2a.net/a2a/benchcost.jpg" border="0">                      

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zaza

08-02-2006, 05:18 PM

Friends, How could a Graphic Card helps to render fast?,All we need is that the rendering time taken should lessen ,so that ,While test & Trail goes easy.I ask the Gurus of rendering Tech that 
1.What Hardware config can be done on a single pentium pro   to achive max power (Both Harware & Software Settings)
2.What Hardware config can be done on a Dual Pentium
3.In Vray the concept of Distributed rendering,,does single Pentium pro of 2 Nos does rendering the same,what an Dual will do,and what about getting 4 nos single pentium in a network.Did any guy experienced this
Please give your experience for Juniors like us who cant just afford to experiment something like this

mukks

08-02-2006, 05:46 PM

on a rendering process, graphic card dosent take much load,,  graphic cards r used for real time rendering , i mean wht u see on viewport , a good Graghic card can hold more complex mesh on ur vewport while u work,, and it can give u smooth animation preview inside viewport itself,,,,,  bout DR in v-ray. its a network rendering stuff,,,  u can take advantage of other workstations connected in ur network,,,,          if u r a v-ray user u can see small square stuffs(buckets) runs all around when rendering is going on,,, if ur machine is Hyper threded ull see 2 such buckets,,,( thanks a lot to intel's great HT techno:) , so thats it,, if u connect more machines using DR ull get more buckets and it makes ur render  faster,,,,  if ur having a Dual processor with HT ull get 4 such buckets ,,,, i think ur getting wht im telling......................<img src="smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0">      if ur going to make a new workstation , its all up to ur budget dude,,, if ur looking for a normal desktop  pentium machine, get one with HT and add more ram u can afford,,, ill say u to go for 1 GB minimum... ( oh 2 GB ll be great)  if u can pay a little bit more,, ill preffer u to go with AMD 64 X2 4200 -- its a dual core and it worths,,,,,,,,,,,,,(good choice)

zaza

08-02-2006, 06:09 PM

Thanks Mukks.
I got it clear, I am using a 2.8 Ghz Pentium HT,1 Gb DDR Ram.But even small rendering using Vray is hell of time.What changes shall i do with Virtual Mem.Its on "Let Win manage". 
Instead of Purchasing a Dual is it wise to take 2 more Single HT computer put them on Network and now i get 3 pentiums on Network will this work better than Dual

mukks

08-02-2006, 07:18 PM

Instead of Purchasing a Dual is it wise to take 2 more Single HT computer put them on Network and now i get 3 pentiums on Network will this work better than Dual  Then u can say proudly,,, " I have a small render farm" <img src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">...

mukks

08-02-2006, 07:23 PM

But even small rendering using Vray is hell of time. its up to u dude,,, v-ray is one fastest GI engine available today, u can tune ur settings to make it faster,,,

zaza

09-02-2006, 04:19 AM

So what u suggest Should one have Single HT morein Network than Duals

gxsaurav

21-02-2006, 10:16 PM

3D Max, Maya, XSI, Lightwave, all benifit from Dual core  or Dual CPU systems, a render farm provides more benifit as that means u also have additional RAM to use, however things are costly first thing u can do is to optimise the rendering options & settings for your materials. Raytraced Materials take a lot of time to render then normal DGS or Standerd shaders, so if u can manage to fake transparency without reflection->raytrace then go for it. There are many such tricks depending on the renderer & Application another thing u can do, is to let the renderer manage memory for the rendering system, like Mental Ray memory management in 3D Max 8 or Maya Graphics card is usefull only when making shaders, & viewport, it has 0 percent addition to the rendering process, games are different, the game engine is also a renderer basically. Right now, i m using a 3.06 GHz system with HT, & HT only provides
10 to 20% benifit over single core, or no HT systems, along with 1 GB RAM. Rendering is a
slow process, so be patient

3d_devil

22-03-2006, 12:38 PM

hey zaza .... 
 
use the default scanline renderer for fast render in max <img src="smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> 
 
30 mins - 40mins is considered as a normal test render time in Vray for archviz by Chis
Nicolas [ the guy who supervised the lightin for I-Robot ] his machine [
personal ] is of 2 p3 processor 1.somethin Ghz in total come around 4
Ghz... don't remember the ram 

 
even for mukks who uses a 3.2 ghz p4 with HT, 1GB ram n 256Mb graphics
card n 2-3 machies for DR, the time taken is 40-60 mins n some times
more. 
 
" qulity never comes cheap " 
 
u want quality output u got 2 wait till the rendein is finished 
 
or if u got money get the APPEX from boxx 
 
otherwise u should first have a budget about how much money u can
invest for a good workstation. then go for the best machin that comes
in that budget... 
for example u can buy a good worksation accordin to ur budget n then later buy a renderbox each month n add to ur shelf <img src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> 
 
the best thing that u can do for now, with the current machine is to
increase the RAM to 2-3 Gb n a grafic card with 512MB [so that u can
work on heavy mesh n ie if ur motherbord supports ] n
last but not least twek the render settings, which according the
industry pros is the best way to use ur existin reasouces to the maximum. 
 
 

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ajayashish

25-07-2006, 02:33 AM

well i have a PC with AMD 64 bit 3000 1gb ram (which i will expabd to 2gb) 256 mb 6100 gForce 17" TFT
 
 and am buying a Laptop with pentium Core Duo 1.6ghz, 1 GB ram and 256 gForce 7800 17" TFT.... can i connect them for rendering purpose...
 
 if yes then how...

mukks

25-07-2006, 11:14 AM

dude, ull be surprised if u render same scene in core duo and ur AMD 3000,  sure that core duo laptop beats ur AMD 3000...PC <img src="smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> sure u can connect both and do network rendering,, thats wht i do at my home .

ajayashish

25-07-2006, 04:41 PM

Hey MUKKS can u guide me how to connect them and how to do the network rendering... thanks

mukks

25-07-2006, 05:12 PM

sure man,,  first of all u need to get a patch cable(Crossover cable), its different than a normal networking cable . also dont make it too long... rest read it here,,,, <a href="http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=52145" target="_blank" target="_blank">LINK</a>  i dont want to type it all here again <img src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> best luck,,,  post here if u have any doubt, i can help u.... <img src="smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"> when u finish, u can share ur folders and files, for max network rendering u can use backburner, i love to use DR ....V-ray  rocks,,,,,,,,<img src="smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0"><img src="smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0">   

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ajayashish

26-07-2006, 04:03 AM

what is this PATCH CABLE... i use a normal network cable to connect them

ajayashish

26-07-2006, 04:11 AM

wow... the link was of great help... can i use the rendering with wireless networking... and then after setting up the network... what do i do to render in network.