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hells angel
26-09-2004, 12:33 PM
<P>hey guys....u've probably seen this on other forums.....abhishek asked me put it up here too after the queries he got from the gallery images......so heres the one work of mine that i'm actually proud of...though i will be reworkin this in the future.....lemme know what u guys think....cya:)</P>
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<P><IMG src="http://www.vivekram.gamingrage.com/montagecg.jpg" border="0"></P>
<P>and heres the concept and wire....</P>
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<P><IMG src="http://www.vivekram.gamingrage.com/wire_full.jpg" border="0"></P>
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<P><IMG src="http://www.vivekram.gamingrage.com/hanuman.jpg" border="0"></P>

Chand
26-09-2004, 01:29 PM
<P>Awsome Angel.. Neat Job.. </P>
<P>Looking forward for more stuff from you..</P>

hells angel
26-09-2004, 08:55 PM
<P>well...decided to post the character design process and research in here too...beats relinkin u guys...so here it is...the character study on hanuman....and design workflow...</P>
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<P>the shiv puran mostly has hanumans history and background...not much on characteristics...<BR>the valmiki ramayana(kishkinda kanda and sundara kanda) describes most of hanumans characteristics with a short history comin up in the uttara kanda.....<BR>to be brief...it describes hanuman as a wise ...highly knowledgeable vanar.....but his appearance completely throws u off guard.....only when he speaks is his intellect known to all......the reason he looks brutish is for two reasons......firstly his eyebrows....the dip in them due to constant contemplation.........and the second due to his broken/swollen jaw(he derives his name from this)....his jaw was broken when indra hurled his vajra at him as a child......hanuman fell on a mountain and his left cheek bone /jaw was broken........as far as anger and confidence is concerned......hanuman was cursed as a child by rishis(due to bein extremely naughty) that he would have to be constantly reminded who he was..else who would forget and think that hes just another ordinary vanar......thats one of the rasons he was always in contemplation and thought......e.g. on leachin the edge of india...he had to be reminded by jambavan who he was...only then did he decide to take off to lanka......in contrast to composure....before takin off he roared out into the skies threatening all life...and said that he would go to lanka and bring site back....or search the heavens....or else tie up ravan and bring him to ram for an explanation....and if none of this was to happen...would tear out lanka itself and bring it to india.....it was this loss of memory that usually brought a brutish persona to hanuman.........<BR>as far as a match of strength is concerned....it was difficult to measure his strength...coz there are various references...but for example.....garud's strength is given as...his one feather can lift the ntire earth will all living beings and gods....and in comparison....between a face off between hanuman and garud(much after ramayan) hanuman is said to have wrapped garud in his tail and flung him back all the way to vaikunth</P>
<P>as far as his costume is concerned...its true that u've never read it anywhere.....coz it aint written anywhere........coz in fact...in the valmiki ramayana...if u go by certain descriptions of hanumans grandeur......u can come to a conclusion that he actually wore nuthin...no clothes at all..........but i tried givin him a look....coz if u follow every little detail word to word...wheres the fun in that???huh!!:)........then i wouldnt be actually designing the character....just makin a picture of a story......and ofcourse ....a lot of indians would tend to flare up!!.now lemme explain the costume....the dhoti is standard......the gaurd on his arm is a standard warrior costume.....a shield for the non-attacking arm....u find it on a lot of warriors......he belonged to a forest tribe, and the minister to sugreeva.....therefore i tried to show his designation and seniority by using forest artifacts.....tried feathers first...but then moved to teeth...coz it suited the look well....u might think this was not suitin his behavour....but lemme correct the misconception...that he "wasnt" a gentle giant during the ramayana....his anger was immense during the war.....i tried to put in the teeth to show off as trophies of demons killed by him.....(usually this kinda system is used to show seniority in tribes.....).....and didnt wanna add the crown...coz that was kinda cliche......the gold was put in in a rugged and unpolished sort of way......more like raw gold.......low on the visual arts(though hanuman was a great musician/artist)........so thats the whole deal with the costume..........<BR><BR>a little more on the concept.....by the texts....i should've added canines on hanuman...but i guess no indian would've accepted this since they already complain on his brutish appearance.......in case u guys are interested ....check out images on the "lion tailed macaque"..or commonly called the "hanuman langur" in india.....u get a pretty fair idea on ur standard vanar if u watch documentaries on this animal........<BR><BR>as far as the LOTR look....just was goin through an untouched section of the yuddha kanda in the ramayana...and gotta tell u.....readin the full description of rama's entire army of ferocious bears and huge menacing monkeys...the image in my head was nuthin less than LOTR..(it is mentioned that all the generals were invincible in their own right.....of a fairly divine nature......and were so charged up that they wanted to take down ravans army single handedly.....some tribes had a history of beating down and killing elephants...they had a history of enmity).....think about it guys....</P>
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Aazim Khan
27-09-2004, 02:47 AM
Good to see you are too Hells !.<br>
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Very impressive indeed, from concept to the final model.<br>
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I will make some technical comments here hells:.<br>
- Concept to model - well done.<br>
- Needs some Shader tweaks. THe bump, specularity is not quite helping here.<br>
the bump and specular needs to go hand in hand.&nbsp; The specularty on
the weapon, and the rings is not&nbsp; TIGHT enoug, its not giving a
feelin that the objects are SOLID and HARD.&nbsp;&nbsp; U need to make
the spec hight, and more focused (less spread).<br>
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- Facial texture looks good, but looks like its set on overlay or burn
mode. also the bump is a bit too hard... the bump has to be very
subtle...<br>
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overall good job.<br>
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hells angel
27-09-2004, 10:05 PM
<P>thanks aazim...</P>
<P>well...points taken.....actually..will be reworkin this a little later...in a few months.....a little of the model..and the shaders..........will keep ur stuff in mind when i do....thanks man:)</P>

andy_maxman
28-09-2004, 04:14 AM
<P>hi</P>
<P>overall nice job with modelling and texturing.</P>
<P>the right feet stands&nbsp;out too much.</P>

dynafx
28-09-2004, 12:52 PM
<P>hi angel</P>
<P>i've seen your links earlier in cgtalk, your model looks gr8 and txtrs are neat</P>
<P>i've seen the animation to, my opinion on the animation is you got to tweak a lot </P>
<P>nice work , keep goin on</P>

hells angel
28-09-2004, 08:36 PM
<P>hey guys...</P>
<P>andy....thanks...but right foot where??...skecth??</P>
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<P>hey dynafx...thanks :)...yeah...i know the animation needs work....actuallly this image was reworked afteer the animation...and still needs reworking...so i'm sure u can guess how far behind on quality the animation was!!...:)...will be doin somethin about that......thats the reason i havent put up the animation link here or on 3dcg....dont wanna show it now....<IMG src="smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">.....u can look forward to a better one once i'm done with garud.......stay tuned:)</P>

andy_maxman
28-09-2004, 08:50 PM
<P>hey guys...</P>
<P>andy....thanks...but right foot where??...skecth??</P>
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<P>no the one rendered in 3d with a full view of Him</P>

hells angel
28-09-2004, 10:49 PM
hmm..the one in the 3d view.....still not gettin the drift though..what do u suggest i do??

eragon
28-09-2004, 11:38 PM
<P>Cool stuff dude... Gld to finally see work by my fellow country men...</P>
<P>whats with u and big legs??</P>

hells angel
29-09-2004, 12:29 AM
<P>hey thanks eragon...good to see u here too:).....always proud of spreadin the country's name man!!:)</P>
<P>nuthin with me and big legs man....u think hanumans legs are big??...they're shaped like hands so theres no way i can make them any smaller!!:)...and the exaggerated features are only on the calves and forearms...:)</P>

eragon
29-09-2004, 12:57 AM
I kinda liked your hanuman's rugged looks - other than the CUTE looking&nbsp;ones that everyone ends up making.

Crunk
29-09-2004, 02:24 AM
where did you see cute hanumans man.. its really weird that istill havent found the true meaning of what ppl thing is cute...

andy_maxman
29-09-2004, 12:16 PM
<P>hmm..the one in the 3d view.....still not gettin the drift though..what do u suggest i do?? </P>
<P>perhaps add more hair/fur ( more like how it looks on the left foot )</P>
<P>cheersMate!</P>
<P>andy</P>

hells angel
05-10-2004, 07:54 PM
will keep ur suggestion in mind andy...and learnt a little more onshag...so i guess i can do a better job on the rework...thanks man:)

harshdesign
06-10-2004, 12:50 AM
<P>hey vivek...sweet work...sorry i'm late here dude...</P>
<P>i really liked how you worked from concept to modeling to textures...good flow</P>
<P>but some critics from me...</P>
<P>1. Skin needs some nice shaders...or maybe textures need to be&nbsp;of high res quality.</P>
<P>2. Work on hairs more...maybe use some hair plugins</P>
<P>rest all is good...i'm impressed with ur modeling</P>
<P>keep up the good work...</P>

hells angel
13-10-2004, 03:18 AM
<P>hey thanks harsh....havent been here in a while..didnt know someone had replied..:)</P>
<P>thanks for the crits....will look into it when i do rework later......textures and all.....</P>
<P>thanks a lot:)</P>

Crunk
13-10-2004, 06:37 PM
you have so much to do... you have to rework hanuman... finsih garuda.. and make a short with both.. yeah.. you shall finish by your next life :P <IMG src="smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0">

hells angel
09-11-2004, 04:33 AM
looks like things are gonna work in this life crunk.....further updates will be on my new short film thread:)

kamalpahuja
25-12-2004, 03:03 AM
hello sir.... im a little new to this arena....sometimes get depressed
to see this kind of amazing work..... but coool gr8888 work........can
u see the animated movie all these charactors are part of