is rigging is enough for job search

[saravanan_lks]

dear members

iam a fresher and i want to know wether rigging(maya) is enough for a job search or i should practice animation . in my view i am intersted in rigging and i want to learn it in depth . iam also having enoug tutorials from Digital tutors and gnomon for rigging and animation
1) shall i go depth in rigging or
2) shall i practice animation for indepth and
3) which department has more openings and value

[cgimage]

Hmmmm Rigging is enough,if you know scripting too...
The bottom line is if you a rigger with experience its great.
but if you a fresher,it very hard to break into any firm..
As basically studios just encourage riggers with scripting capabilities and experience..
Have seen many of my pals suffering because of that..
Haven't heard of interns for riggers or so anywhere too...
In short if you could master the art of rigging all in one go,go for it..
Other wise it would be great if you have an aid like say animation/modeling/lighting etc..
All The Best Pal,
Regards.
Raj:)

[saravanan_lks]

dear raj

thanks for ur guidence ,as now iam practicing rigging (and mel scripting by self study)but iam in a dilemma of choosing rigging or animation as u said fresher cant make easy entarance of rigging can i choose animation

reg
lks

[cgimage]

Pal i meant that if you know the basic rigging,it wont help,you need to have a outstanding show reel,with mel scripting knowledge in it,to be even considered...
As you said you trying to learn a hand in scripting too,thats fine...
As rigging in production is basically scripting oriented..
And regarding your dilemma,i will advise you to start with rigging and then move on to animation.As till you finish learning the basics of rigging,you would get a hold regarding the concepts in animation..
In short bro,each field is hard to master,be it animation,rigging,lighting,modeling etc..
but good riggers mainly as well as animators are rarity in India.
so its hard to find a job in those sections..
But as you said you starting off with it,why not take that as a challenge and succeed..
Right??..i hope if you concentrate good enough with good technical aspects,and a good reel,you will surely succeed.
So don't look to other options,and carry on with rigging,and then make a gradual shift to animation..
Hope thats sums it up...
All da best bro...
Take care ,
Regards.:)

[abhilashsrinivas]

Hi..

Its nice to hear that you r interested in rigging and u r taking help from the Tutorial DVD's.

I am a trainer and i handle rigging specialization. Lately I have been speaking to studio professionals and their HR Managers who test & recruit the candidates.

Any studio which is hiring a fresher doesnt expect the candidate to do high end rigs and high level of scripting.

When i asked abt the basic points,what as a studio they look for in a student who is a fresher,The answer was

1- Basic understanding of the Fundamental Concepts of that particular Dept (modeling,lighting,rigging,animation,texturing)

2-Precisely for Rigging as u have asked...How well and intelligently a student utilizes the point,orient,aim constraints to achieve the task.

Understanding & utilization of utillities to achieve basic stretch's,Ik-Fk Switch,deformer rigs.

application of corrective shapes to acheive proper deformations in skinning

ability to understand and rig the mechanical devices such as pistons etc.

Many studios use customized and proprietry softwares for each module in the pipeline which can meet their changing needs on daily basis.So freshers who get into these kind of studios should be in a position to adopt & adapt to the
new platforms and their flexibilty can only come from strong fundamentals.

As far as scripting is concerned,ya it would be an added advantage for any candidate who is applying but its not the basic thing what a studio looks for.
Focussing on the fundamentals of rigging concepts,ability to skin a model properly.

I hope u have gained value from the above statements.u can revert back if u have any queries.

[cgimage]

hey thats nice to hear abhilash:)
can you brief me into any studios which hire fresher riggers or who have interns for riggers,as i have some colegues who great at all the points u mentioned,but what they lack is hardcore scripting.
if you do have time,
just watch this reel
http://www.vimeo.com/663155
and do let me know,is it good enough????
will be gald for your comments...
regards:)

[saravanan_lks]

dear raj
thank u once again for guiding me ,but one thing i want to know that as per ur comment (So don't look to other options,and carry on with rigging,and then make a gradual shift to animation..).... is gradual shift is essential for short period (say 1 or 2 year) . keeping my both legs in different spezl.,will it make me effective for present job searching???

regards

lks

[saravanan_lks]

dear abhilashsrinivas

thank you , you had given me step by step clarification and make me clear view on rigging , which gives me confident.
one small question - is job openings are wider in rigging??compare to animation as i want to survive in the market

regards

lks

[troothlies]

dear abhilashsrinivas

thank you , you had given me step by step clarification and make me clear view on rigging , which gives me confident.
one small question - is job openings are wider in rigging??compare to animation as i want to survive in the market

regards

lks

after all the reply you've got, you still asking about MARKET, sorry my friend saravanan, animation career is not market & you can survive only if you've got passion towards it.

my opinion is to learn rigging - you need to know animation & anatomy
to learn animation - you need to know drawing, timing, acting, anatomy & good tech skills as well.

before jumping into the market, please decide or take right decisions for wider openingin market.

sorry, if i'm discouraging, i've seen lots of artists getting lost without learning things properly.

[cgimage]

dear raj
thank u once again for guiding me ,but one thing i want to know that as per ur comment (So don't look to other options,and carry on with rigging,and then make a gradual shift to animation..).... is gradual shift is essential for short period (say 1 or 2 year) . keeping my both legs in different spezl.,will it make me effective for present job searching???

regards

lks

Yes,these days jack of all trades are in demand.the deadlines are too tough..
production houses needs people who can handle more than 1 thing..
But the bottom line is bro,not 1 or 2 year is gona give you mastery even in one aspect of animation..
As our field is such,that updates keeps on coming every second day,and you can never say that you have learn't maya or learnt rigging or so..
As learning Animation is a life long process...you just can keep on getting better.
So i would advise you to keep on learning whatever comes your way,
never be biased toward one thing...
As all these years of learning,will come to your aide while you working somewhere in the future...

[saravanan_lks]

dear truth lies , raj

thanks for ur reply ,u hadn't discouraged me , rather than make me to take a clear steps towards my future . u know that freshers have thousand qustions in mind because of not having clear grip towards this industry. but people like u ,raj and all the good hearts voluntarly leaps in and guide us to take a better directions .thank u

regards

lks

[cgimage]

dear truth lies , raj

thanks for ur reply ,u hadn't discouraged me , rather than make me to take a clear steps towards my future . u know that freshers have thousand qustions in mind because of not having clear grip towards this industry. but people like u ,raj and all the good hearts voluntarly leaps in and guide us to take a better directions .thank u

regards

lks

Always Welcome bro:)

[abhilashsrinivas]

Hi..

Nice to read all the posts. As i said in my last post that the knowledge of scripting would definately be an advantage but that advantage will only be counted if the candidate is strong in his or her's fundamental concepts. precisely according to my experience a lot of riggers are not good at skinning, which normally studios look at, though the basic techniques which i and some of the other post had mentioned are there.

Many of my students were placed in well known studios though they were not good at acripting,but yes they were good at using the utilities well.

Ya i do agree,not all tasks can be achieved by only utilities,knowledge of scripting does help once the candidate gets into the studio.Again i am trying to focus on the statement that fundamental understanding of the Rigging & Skinning concepts is much more important than anyother thing.

If that is the case then facial rig is one more aspect what a studio would like to see in a candidates showreel. But as a fresher, studios would only see how exactly the candidate is strong with the concepts.At the end of the day it all comes back to the fundamentals.

to add variety to the showreel, try and rig different kinds of props.let it be automobiles (cars,bikes,machines) something as simple as a book,try and look out for props in different animated movies like beauty and the beast,the understanding of stretch and squash,creating rigs with more flexibility and less amount of controls, these are some of the points wht as a rigger one should always keep in mind.

As far as focussing on one area such as animation and rigging,i would suggest concenterate on one area for lets say 2-3 yrs but if u have a liking for animation dont let it go from ur daily practice.do a lot of sketching and watch performance oriented movies (real format,animated) with the help of which u can develop those performance traits in u and it would help u to refine your animation a lot. Animation is a performing art.

Dear Cgimage, i will definately have a look at the link wht u had given.as of now that link is not playing due to the flash player.ill watch it and get back to u. try applying for graphiti studio which is in mumbai.i think they have given their contact address in the studio's hiring section.just schek out.i hope it helps.

Passion,dedication,constant learning and patience are the important things which i can say will give u success in the field of animation.So keep rigging and animating

[venkey.1977]

hai everbody
fine sugestions
thanks
so i think that there will be a tough competetion for the freshers
but we are hearing news about more no of new studios are coming and there will be a huge opening for our feild from 2008.
is that true
or is it a rumer
many of articles in newspaper & magazine we have seen
please suggest me because i am also a fresher just entered maya
and i have decedided to specilaize in rigging
it is enough or i want to learn animation too

i am having the same doubt of saravanan_lks

friends please help me suggesting the links for jobs
there are some of my friends completed maya
it will be helpfull for them

thanks

[cgimage]

Dear Cgimage, i will definately have a look at the link wht u had given.as of now that link is not playing due to the flash player.ill watch it and get back to u. try applying for graphiti studio which is in mumbai.i think they have given their contact address in the studio's hiring section.just schek out.i hope it helps.



Thanks for that pal..
Will be waiting for your reply..
Regards:)
Raj

[abhilashsrinivas]

Hey CGImage,

Thats a quite decent showreel..i personally liked it...some of my seniors also had seen it and they liked.Any kind of help if u r looking frm me then write to me at abhilashsrinivas@yahoo.com

[cgimage]

hey had mailed u yesterday Abhilash.did you go through it???

[abhilashsrinivas]

CgImage...i mailed u the contents...hope u had seen it...

[cgimage]

yes,and i replied u again bro:D
with some more doubts,hope i aint pushing it too fast:)
sorry for the trouble...